i want to make a note on this board that the x-jw's are definately, in my book, beautiful people!.
perhaps it is because of the good things we have derived.
maybe it's the hardships.. either way, we are all beautiful here.. -lots of love from professor.
I certainly agree. Ex-jdubs are truly Beautiful People and I'm grateful to be among you.
I don't know what I'd do without you. You help me maintain my sanity.
To ALL the beautiful people posting on this forum ... I wish you all the best that life has to offer.
Your sister Sweet Tee
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how do you feel about elders df'g a child of 13 or 14 for being a willing victim of child abuse?
I am with Vitty. A child cannot consent to sex with an adult ... period. The grown-up is the one that should be penalized - by a judge in a court of law not a judicail committee in a kangaroo court.
As for doubtfully feeling sorry for the blemishes on the 'religion'; I could personally care less about how a religious organization looks in the eyes of the public. I have much more compassion for how minor children are victimized and mistreated in the name of 'religion'.
hi ppls!
i found on the watchtower sight under the topic "how can you find the true religion?".
that it mentions, "the most outstanding mark of true christians is that they have real love among themselves.".
I believe this statement to be true. Enough said.
The statement may be true of True Christians but it is not true of Jehovah's Witnesses. What loving Christian Church would allow protect pedophiles and permit them to roam freely amist children? hmmmmmm?? Sanction and encourage child abuse? Encourage, no, demand that parent's not speak to children and grandchildren who disbeleive ... none that I want to be affiliated with, that's for sure.
The so-called love among JW's is totally conditional and bears no resemblance to the type of love shown by Jesus Christ. Just my 2 cents.
cypher: i know what you're thinking, 'cause i'm thinking the exact same thing.
actually, i've been thinking it since i got here: why didn't i take the blue pill?
- the matrix.
All I can say is that I wasn't really happy as a JW. I thought I was but in hindsight I was just fooling myself.
I think a lot of the dubs are doing the same thing. Especially the real 'thinkers' and 'intellectuals' still in the bOrg. But hey, that pair-o-dice is right around the corner - true happiness and bliss shall soon abound (just forget about that generation thing and keep on precahing - the end is NiGH, the end is NIGH, the end is )
vitta's thread above got me wondering.
how many here still believed the "witnesses" to have the truth until they came to sites like this?
how many actually came here to defend the jw's and ended up leaving?
The Internet didn't help me decide to leave, but while I was looking for the WTBS web site to order the 'young people ask' book for my kids, I came across Randy Waters web site. Then ordered COC - devoured it - confirmed some things, revealed others and left me completely appalled at this organization that calls itself 'God's representatives on Earth. I will never look at the WTBS the same as I did before, and I hope to God more Witnesses find out the truth about the 'lie', whether it be from Ray's book, the media or the web.
Great thread.
i know it is an odd question and maybe i am not phrasing it right but i felt with their cult of confession (not just to the elders) but with everybody knowing each other's business it could be a danger.
for example: let's say you were a person who kept a lot of money hidden in your house and you made the mistake of telling one of these wonderful friends - what guarantee did you have that they wouldn't blab it to the wrong person and you could get robbed or something?
i always felt with them that i shouldn't let the right hand know what the left was doing.
LHG
It certainly made me keep my guard up and be very careful of who I shared personal information with. Calling them 'the friends' just made me sick . They think that just because you say that, it automatically makes it so. More cult thinking
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i've always thought that it was a rotten trick for god to create us with free will and then punish us for using it.. wha'd'ya think?
If you take the idea of the 'Bible God' out of the equation then things are different ... at least for me.
I'm with u/d, if there is a 'God' as defined in the Bible, then why AIDS, deformity and so forth??? I know of Christian and non-Christians who actually believe that God is behind everything that happens, good and bad. That can't be true. Did God intend for children to be abuse and neglected ... no you say? Then why does he 'allow it' if he has the power to stop it???????
I believe that we do have free will to a certain extent but some things are programmed within us either through DNA, hormones ... whatever.
I don't let the 'Bible God' rule my life and make my life decisions for me. Just doesn't work. I try to live according to Jesus words and love my neighbor as my self. And since leaving the borg, I've learned to love myself very, very much
are things better, worse or unchanged?
are you still associated with or are you shunned?
As a child, I wished I had a family like this.
That statement does it for me. Thanks
i have been thinking about this for a while, so here goes.
when i was in the "truth" i truly believed in god, i prayed and tried to do what was right ( wt style) then when i started reading stuff and the experiences on here it didnt take very long before i knew the "truth" wasnt true after all.. so after 20 years as an adult that i spent in, it litrually took a few hours to come out.. ive asked myself how and why did this happen?
and so quickly.. at first i felt i still believed in jehovah, but if the wt was wrong, where did that leave me.
I felt I had a relationship with something - call it God, higher consciousness, whatever. All I know is that it's something I have felt all my life. What the dubs did was put stipulations on that relationship. If you don't do THIS and avoid THAT then God will not be there for you. In fact, if you leave US you leave HIM! . It changed my personal relationship from one of comfort to one of 'fear and trembling'. I remember hearing over and over again, "it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God".
Wondering all the time if I was bloodguilty or had blasphemed unintentionally was draining and made it difficult to feel close to God. I bought into the 'if you leave US you leave HIM for maybe a month or so after Ieft the Borg. But with five kids in tow and a dub husband acting a complete fool, I called on the God I knew before they told me his name was Jehovah and I truly believe he helped me through it.
I agree that after reading about contradictions in the Bible and different theories about whether God even exists at all one can become confused, but my faith in MY GOD remains in tact. I do lean a little toward the agnostic point of view, in that I am not positive that anyone has all the answers about this God and our future - and I do wonder why there appears to be no intervention in mans affairs on earth. But I just accept the fact that it's not for me to know at this time. But I do feel that I will find out - one day.
Thanks for making my Friday!
